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  • djabthrashdjabthrash
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    @alex yu : i feel you ! I used to clean all the tracks like crazy in my mix prep, but since it is a cumbersome process, now i just clean tracks and/or parts that sound noisy when i listen back to my “volume balancing only” mix (no processing).
    In this case : the audible and annoying noise i heard was guitars, bass and vox during breaks, and i also chose to remove the stick counting during that drum break, which some people also chose to leave in their final mix (which is fine too).

    Alex YuAlex Yu
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    @djabthrash Not sure which DAW you have but Reaper has an option to remove silence/noise below a certain threshold. That’s what I use initially, after that there is usually very little clean up to do.

    djabthrashdjabthrash
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    @alex yu : i use Reaper but for that kind of cleaning job i automate the take volume manually, for more precision and control. Doesn’t take that long.
    What you talk aboout is “strip silence” IIRR, and is very useful to clean up drum close mics tracks to only leave the hits.

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    djabthrashdjabthrash
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    mix breakdown video by Vigilante StylezVEVO :

    djabthrashdjabthrash
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    mix breakdown video by Max Molodtsov :
    Eternal Studio Diaries: MALAMOR – “Dead To The World” Mix Overview (Death Metal Mix Walkthrough) :

    Nick GNick G
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    Here’s something you may want to try if you haven’t already. Try this on guitar track one. There are a number of resonances that once you hear them you can’t unhear them.
    try notch filters on the following frequencies. You’ll need a parametric EQ that can do tight Q. Here’s the frequencies to cut. 509hz, 691hz, 1620hz, 1800hz, 1990hz, 2081hz, 3377hz. Start with a 5db cut on the frequencies and listen to how the guitar loses those annoying whistlers.

    SergeSerge
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    To how I got my bass sound in the mix:
    On the DTS BASS AMP track with an equalizer, I cut everything to 226 Hz with a low-pass filter, on the DTS BASS DI track with an equalizer, I cut everything to 587 Hz with a hi-pass filter and raised the “bell” by 1.9 db at 5 kHz. Then I directed both tracks to the “bass” bus on which: the Mammoth plug-in from Aurora DSP, the saturator from Waves – Kramer Tape and an equalizer with a small cut of the bottom and resonance in the lower middle and a slight rise at 5 kHz (about as earlier).

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    ycooremanycooreman
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    I just tried not to mess with it too much.
    I didn’t mess with the kicks (just EQ) but I did double the snare.
    I automated the panning of the vocals to make them sound like demons popping up all around you.
    I kept everything pretty dry for a thrash metal feel.

    Nick GNick G
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    Here’s a cool technique involving flipping the phase on a duplicate guitar track and using a Sansamp for some serious metal chug.

    Duplicate the guitar track, Invert the phase on it, Insert a SansAmp on the double (Pro Tools has a stock one but there are others on the market for non Avid guys). Try this its free
    https://www.soft-amp.com/softamp-psa
    If you bypass the SansAmp it nulls to silence, that’s good. Now watch your output meters as the levels can go a little haywire while dialling in the sound. The SansAmp has a preamp for “tube” drive and 3 saturation bands
    -Buzz for low end breakup and overdrive
    -Punch for midrange
    -Crunch adds upper harmonics
    -Drive is for tube amp distortion
    The real trick is to play with the Low and High 12dB/oct shelves
    To drop those guitars down (or bass, or kick…) turn up the Preamp, drop down the Master, turn the Low shelf all the way up and the High shelf around 12-o’clock to start.
    At this point you should be hearing some crazy stuff as you are well into the out of phase dimension now
    Start with the Buzz and Punch to fatten things up
    Now play with the other settings, but watch for high frequency fizziness
    Keep playing with the Low and High shelves, constantly tweaking as you adjust the other parameters if it’s too boomy, dial back the Low or Buzz to cancel more lows
    If it’s too fizzy, turn the High shelf down some more or back off the Crunch and Drive
    Also, if you pan the original guitar make sure to pan the duplicate in the same direction to maintain the same tone.
    Credit to Tchad Blake Thanks for the inspiration!

    djabthrashdjabthrash
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    @nick G : very interesting !
    Is is something you did in your own Malamor mix ?

    Shreddy_McShredsalotShreddy_McShredsalot
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    I apologize if this gets double posted, I guess my login timed out while I was writing this. I haven’t made a mix rundown video yet, but I will this weekend hopefully. I just wanted to keep the old school death metal sound as much as I could. I really didn’t didn’t want to use any samples other than effects, but that left kick drum just sounded like duct tape on a blown head. I thought it was one kick with a beater and reso mic at first, until I zoomed in and saw the alternating pattern. I got the left kick cleaned up pretty well, but it still sounded completely different than the right kick. I ended up blending both with the D4 and another sampled kick. Guitars, I just did some eq and a smidgen of reverb and some compression. I think I should have skipped the compression there. On the bass I did some eq, comp and verb for the amp, then doubled the DI for a low clean and dirty high and blended them with the amp. On the vox, I blended a stereo stem of all vocals with a little grit added from lil tube with the three vocal tracks routed to the main vocals bus that has eq, light limiting, compression, and verb. The main vocals have some compression and eq, the backup vocals have reverb and Kilohearts phase distortion, and the end vocals just have some verb and eq. I did a touch more verb and eq on the master bus, but I had too much highpass. Sounds great on my phone, I should have stuck to my reference track more in the car test though I think. Also, lots of volume automation all around. I didn’t want to do a static mix, I wanted to draw the performance out and keep it dynamic and a bit raw. These tracks had that kind of energy, it felt like being in the old jam shack again mixing this stuff. That’s what I wanted to shine through in my mix, that raw energy of the performance they put down in the studio.

    Nick GNick G
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    I experimented with it but in this instance I didn’t as the phase flip idea made the guitars too scooped.
    I did use a delay effect to get a slight doubling effect. Basically take a stereo delay, set the left to 14ms delay and the right to 16ms, set the feedback quite high, just make sure it doesn’t self oscillate. Pan each delay hard left and right. Now experiment with sending the guitar to this delay. It does a decent job of thickening the guitar tone and giving a sense of width

    djabthrashdjabthrash
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    @nick g : for that delay technique, you send the delay for each guitar to the opposite side of that guitar, right ?

    Nick GNick G
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    I found it most effective with the guitar panned in the centre. Try experimenting with the pan positions and see what you like. The effect is more apparent when mixing in headphones so have a listen on headphones and your monitors to see how this technique translates.

    djabthrashdjabthrash
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    @nick g : which one is panned in the center ? : the delay or the dry guitar ? or both ?
    And is it on all all times during the track or is it a temporary trick you use ?

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